So dreadfully boring. Horrible. The circular reasoning abounded.
Highlight of the day, getting home my spouse asked me " what's with all this urgency to preach, why don't we focus on our families and love"
one tiny step closer....
this cult is getting really shameless.
the wt study was always supposed to be for discussion of 'the deep truths' of the bible.
the wt may have always been filled with utter nonsense, but at least it had the appearance of a topical discussion of bible doctrine.
So dreadfully boring. Horrible. The circular reasoning abounded.
Highlight of the day, getting home my spouse asked me " what's with all this urgency to preach, why don't we focus on our families and love"
one tiny step closer....
ephesians 4:11 makes for a strong case that not every member of the congregation should have to go door-to-door.. "so christ himself gave the apostles, the prophets, the evangelists, the pastors and teachers,..".
this shows that different members of the first century congregations served different ministerial functions.
so why don't the jw's say that field service is no longer compulsory for all congregation members, only for those who feel a calling for it per eph 4:11..... the mormons sort of do this with their young men and women 'elders' doing 2 years voluntary, genuinely full-time service (these mormons boys put in some big hours 6 days a week and have their meals provided for them, etc!
i totally agree... It will never happen.
ive always eaten the birthday cake and given my friends gifts. I give my mom mother day cards too. I never was a JW at heart I guess
couples having problems and getting divorced must be a problem in the jehovahs witnesses.
the articles are definately an interesting read.
they give plenty of bad advise as usual.
I saw this yesterday, it also has the article about the memorial? They have the same advice in jw tv, for the kid being bullied. Pray, have family worship, and go out in service. All the people giving advice live in a bubble and know not of what they speak, don't listen!!
thank you for this forum.
thank you for your stories which helped wake me up from my delusion.
thank you for letting me join you.
Marked
we are both off of work due to sick kids.
while cooking lunch he turns to me and says, i don't know anywhere in the bible that jesus would give dates about the end coming.
he said to love, forgive, and love some more.
We are both off of work due to sick kids. while cooking lunch he turns to me and says, I don't know anywhere in the bible that Jesus would give dates about the end coming. He said to love, forgive, and love some more. Why are they so fixated on figuring out dates they can't guess? I was in shock and said, well, I think our whole religion is based off of 1914. He said he doesn't necessarily agree Or disagree. I said, well, if 1914 is wrong 1919 crumbles and the GB isn't Gods channel for us. then silence and he said we would talk later.
Where do I go from here? I can't believe he even brought it up.
the rumor mill and insight from this website has me dreaming of slipping out some, " my friend at bethel ( i have a few but their nobodies) told me coming up they are changing 144k, our name thus the logo changes, and the number of gb members".
would i get in trouble, could elders legitimately talk to me?
who are they if i have info from someone higher up and in new york?
The rumor mill and insight from this website has me dreaming of slipping out some, " my friend at bethel ( I have a few but their nobodies) told me coming up they are changing 144k, our name thus the logo changes, and the number of Gb members". Would I get in trouble, could elders legitimately talk to me? who are they if I have info from someone higher up and in New York?
I know it's wise to keep my mouth shut, my family is invisible, when these changes are made I would love to see them all just die that there status wasn't in the "know" first compared to my 'sorry' R&F a$$.
i've know ttatt for over three years.
stopped going to meetings three months ago.
i recently contacted the bible students.
Lucky you..... Spouse/ any kids on board? Wish my exist was Sunday that would be so nice. whats some of your fade advice?
against my better judgement, i've decided to share the following as a response to guy pierce passing and the announcement of the elimination of district overseers later this year.. late in january (2014) i got an email from one of my contacts (a fader) who served at bethel for several years, but is no longer at wt hq.
he still has a lot of close contacts within the service department and in other departments at patterson and knows people in all of the ny offices.
i kept this email set aside on a flash drive and haven't shared it with anyone - figuring i'd publish an article about it later this year when i had more time to do it right.
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i knew some that were very happy for you and others, along with their families, that were envious of someone's advancement.. .
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@millie210 - what happens to wives of elders? my husband is not a servant and none of my close friends husbands are either. I was recently at a dinner and a sister I met was saying her husband just got appointed and the other elders wives told her to get ready. So, my question is, get ready for what? Do people complain about elder wives dress? You are expected to never miss a meeting? What is it? Because the servants wives in my area are the only ones allowed to miss meetings/ service because they are the only 'truly' sick ones, the rest of us are fakers, :)
i knew some that were very happy for you and others, along with their families, that were envious of someone's advancement.. .
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Usually, I feel irritated, because I know all the butt kissing they did to get there. Any of our friends that got appointed turned in to robots. I think most reach out for the title, but the few sincere ones, realize their treading against the current And get burned out. We come to meeting when we want, leave at the half, never pioneer, hardly ever do service and feel the servants look down on us (from shepherding calls and conversation, we know were labeled weak) however, I am pretty sure they are jealous that we do what's best for our family and they wish they Had the balls to do the same. Having a title and the ego come at a price :)
I remind my hubby at least we have our education, good jobs, happy family, and live well....so 3.5 hours out of the week we are treated As though we are worthless. At least in the 'world' we are respected. Isn't that pathetic we feel that way, as Gods loving people?!